TISSTalks is our space

August 8, 2008 at 7:09 pm 15 comments

TISSTalks is for all of us.

Gender. Sex. Harassment. Violence. Discrimination.

Our experiences, coloured by who we are, where we come from and what we define as our identities. Our experiences that are hidden and secret.

Here’s our chance to talk about this. Here’s our chance to make ourselves heard.

Whoever we are. Female, male, both, uncertain, we welcome thoughts, we welcome reflection, we welcome ideas.

Mail us at tisstalks@gmail.com and we’ll put it up here for discussion. As per our code of confidentiality WE SHALL DISCUSS THE ISSUE AND NOT THE INDIVIDUAL.

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TISSTalks and The Film Club present Queerazadi Rally and TISS Students Union

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  • 1. Pepsi  |  August 9, 2008 at 5:47 am

    Why you are important to me and some one link me!
    One of my persistent fantasies used to be of sitting at a pavement café in city. I would be writing a novel or perhaps poetry or even a philosophical treatise. But I would frequently raise my eyes to watch the girls go by.
    I no longer have that fantasy. I do, however, eat from time to time outdoors at a restaurant on the street leading to a theater. I don’t try to write there. Instead, I watch the passers-by.
    I am not concentrating on girls. I am concentrating on married couples, and I look particularly at the women. They are not glamorous. No my dear friends. Some are pretty, but many would be considered plain. Since they are on their way to the theatre to attend a play, an opera or a concert, one may assume they are above average in cultural literacy. In other respects they are, like most people, average.
    But to the man whose hand or arm she is holding, she is not “average”. She is the whole world to him.
    The Bible says, “And the Lord God said: ‘It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him.” And so, “made he a woman.” It doesn’t say that he made a pretty or witty woman, or any kind-of-adjective woman. He made the basic woman.
    Why is this basic woman so valuable to the man ? Three things:
    First, she is a warm body in the bed. I don’t refer to sexual activity. That is important, But I refer to something that is, if possible even more primitive: human contact.
    A baby crying in its crib doesn’t want conversation or a gold ring. He wants to be held and patted. Adults need that physical contact also. They need to cuddle together for warmth and comfort in an indifferent or cold world. The plain woman and plain man do that for each other.
    But conversation is also important. These couples may have been talking to each other for 30 years or more. You might think they have nothing left to say. But still they can talk to each other in ways they cannot talk to anyone else. He can tell her of something good he has done without fearing she will think he is bragging. He can count on her interest and understanding. The primary purpose of this conversation is to convey information. Its purpose is to say, “I am here and I know you are here.”
    Third, the woman serves the man’s need to be needed. If no one needs you, what good are you?
    Other people-employers, students, readers-may say they need you. But in such relationships you are replaceable at some price. To this woman you are not replaceable at any price. That gives you the self esteem to meet the world everyday.
    So this “ordinary” woman – one like millions others in the world – has great value to this man. And while I have written these views from a man’s point of view, I don’t think this relationship is one-sided. On the contrary, I am sure it is reciprocal.

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  • 2. Ankur  |  August 12, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    although the declaration of human rights talks abt freedom frm discrimination… still in this world evreyday every minute we discriminate ppl on the basis on sex, gender n sexuality..
    the language we speak, the institutions we r a part of. smwhere r all sexist.. we r so used to the colors of black n white, that we forget shades of grey also exists… there r ppl who donot fall in d category of man n woman..wht abt them? the society fails to incorporate them coz they donot fall in th so called hetero-normative world.
    a man is differentiated by a woman on the basis of genital organs..d reality is ny numbr of permutation n combination of these genital organs r possible.. terming ever1 under the banner of 3rd gender is also very derogatory…
    a body must be treated as a body… irrespective of the fact wht genital organs one is born with.. n also socialization in name of gender must nt happen.. n also one must be free to exercise choice in matter of sexual orientation.. . we want a world without discrimination…:)

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  • 3. shall i reveal  |  August 12, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    Ankur….lovely thoughts…more on the idealistic side….can u also share ur thoughts on the real situation…ideally i also world free of any discrimination….atleast pepsi had the sense to speak out the truth….

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  • 4. Ankur  |  August 13, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    sry d thoughts which nw seems 2 b idealistic are in a process to become realistic…
    nywaz d need f hour is 2 make d male world abt d female perspective whch has been undercover sinces ages…interaction between d two sexes can actually create wonders.. lots of generalization n stereotyping has being done..a gap has been created btw d two whose bridging is very important…coz equality in real terms can only be achieved by change in attitude…
    the simple thing each individual can do is to talk abt these issues… men are dealing with their insecurities in the name of masculinity n it is very imp. to free them frm these baseless notions…
    hope m nt sounding too idealistic this time…!!!
    i wud appreciate if u also share ur opinion on this matter…

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  • 5. shall i reveal  |  August 14, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    ankur…..too closeness…n again u get blamed for something wich u really do not do or want to do n n u r lablled chauvinistic…think about it….life is full circle

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  • 6. Ankur  |  August 15, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    hey sry didnt get it.. plz elaborate

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  • 7. shall i reveal  |  August 16, 2008 at 7:42 am

    i commented on ur statement: ………interaction between d two sexes can actually create wonders…….with the kind of closeness we have currently in TISS, (forget about society outside the main gate and keeping in mind the level of gender sensitization)….more closeness, as you prescribe, has to be brought in as concept when you are sure that sensitization process has been completed to an optimum level, and from there onwards…u are sure that proximity would bring in more harmony rather dan it wud lead to further complications ….or otherwise u (any one) cud be easily branded for no reason as MCP or oggler..or wotever appropriate term in vogue….

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  • 8. neha  |  August 26, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    well…
    Ankur i do agree with you, but pepsi(!!!!) what is it here that u have done.. ur quoting the bible saying that god made a woman who was fit to be a man’s helper…
    The entire discussion here is about why should u pic on religious texts which in all ways have given women a subordinate status!! which actually encompasses all religions. This very fact is contested that why are these texts like this and what is their basis?
    I dont think we are born to be helpers of men only…!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    let me reflect is that why I was born?????

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  • 9. varun kumar ranjan  |  September 1, 2008 at 2:25 am

    hey first of all tell us who deleted the views of AKASH RAMAN….the discussion was good…leading every one to some conclusion and ideas……u told nothing wil be deleted.then tell us where r they in the site.
    and we aould also like to know whos the moderator for this site.
    i think uwil delete this message even.

    one more question..when god created attraction and created sexes,why should we support homosex,

    i medicine its called disease to have relation with own sex.
    forget gender …….wats the need to encourage them so much….
    if they r abnormal then lets leave them.. wats the need to encourage homosex.
    as akash said its i think true……why should we change nature…..why should we want change the laws of nature…..can any one tell one advantage of homo sexuality.
    if every one turns into homosex…then where the future for human race,,its a good view by akash raman……..does any body has answer.
    let every one participate in discussion.
    did u ever think why the responses r low in tiss talks site….
    reasons:
    most of them dont know there is a web site.
    many dont like the messages to be deleted..unless they r offensive and volgare.
    and think why so many women were abesent in gender meeting,
    most

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  • 10. Ammel  |  September 1, 2008 at 3:04 am

    Dear Supporter of Akash Raman’s views,

    The first post, which you will find in a link called ‘previous posts’ at the bottom of the home page had 85 views. Of them, you will STILL find your friend’s views in comment no. 48, 49, 52, 53, 54, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67.

    None have been deleted.

    Unfortunately, your views on homosexuality seem to be in complete agreement with victorian morality (bedfellows with our colonisers now, are you?). Homosexuality has always been around, it is quite natural. It becomes an issue, when people like you stand up and gag people who practice or identify with sexualities that do not aid procreation.

    Please think a little bit on why heterosexuality is considered natural. It has historical bases, and why those who critique it are also critiquing a certain kind of society built around it.

    It would be surprising to you to know that it isnt just on our privileged campus that we have had open gays and lesbians, but also all over in India, that many lesbians who have come out have been from rural areas, that they have been driven to suicide as they saw no alternative bcoz of patriarchal views, murders of lesbians, and the dual (and lonely) lives of gay (married) men. Read the engaging Loving Women by Maya Sharma, and Same Sex Love in India by Ruth Vanita and Saleem Kidwai.

    The whole world will not turn homosexual, just as while we have legitimised heterosexuality, the whole world isnt hetero.

    It would have been wonderful if you had raised this at the GBM. We would have given you a patient hearing. Do you still find it problematic that our respected Director, at the orientation mentioned that TISS stands against discrimmination on the basis of sexual orientation as a matter of principle?

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  • 11. varun kumar ranjan  |  September 2, 2008 at 9:56 pm

    its not about discrimination dear,dont divet the topic, as such no one has discrimination. we did attend the meeting at inauguration….. the expalnation is good ..well about homo sexuality then u ppl even should bring abt the facts abt murders and illtreating them with examples,,,,if not every one wil think the same…can u see a single wall poster r add thats illustrating the examples of suicides n homicides of homosexuality in campus….so every one doubts whther really the severity is so severe as u mentioned…yes we wil go through the book u mentioned and will also go through net,, and lets see the facts

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  • 12. Shreya Ghosh  |  September 3, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    Referreing to the post on sept. 1, I would like to highlight the following:
    In medicine its called disease to have relation with own sex.. forget gender..what is the need to encourage them so much…if they are abnormal lets leave them…
    Calling homosexuality an abnormality is proof enough of a discriminatory attitude. Science today has moved ahead and research has proved that there is no medical defect in a homosexual person.

    Coming to the entry on 2nd September,
    Why should we wait for any form of discrminiation to become ‘severe’? Isn’t prevention better than cure?

    And the issue of sexuality and sexual orientation is so hush-hush that very few have the courage to come up to the forefront. We will put up posters on homosexuality and the challenges that they face in order to bring them to public notice.

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  • 13. tomcruise  |  September 4, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    can any body tell how to upload some presentation on female foeticides……….its a power point presentation……moderator jee can u tell me ,is there any way i can uplod to this site, its a nice one called ””unwanted daughters”….. i made it. i want every one to see wats the situation of poor girls in india
    thank u

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  • 14. tisstalks  |  September 4, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    You can email your post/presentation to tisstalks@gmail.com. Thank you.

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  • 15. tomcruise  |  September 6, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    hi
    i posted my attacchment abt female foeticide,
    well r u goin to attach
    wating to hear from u
    i mailed to tisstalks@gmail.com
    by

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