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August 4, 2008 at 7:51 pm 41 comments
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TISS TALKS put up this poster two days ago outside the Dining Hall. We received our first response to it this evening.
We invite comments.
Entry filed under: In General. Tags: body, discussion, sexual harassment, sexuality.
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devaji | August 5, 2008 at 8:47 am
first i did not understand…..then….i saw at the small circle…..then i leaned back…..oh my godess!!! …such a poor depiction…….
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ankur | August 5, 2008 at 9:11 am
i feel sorry for the fact that it depicts the reality of gender insensitive people in TISS… Well m happy that my seniors have taken an intiative to bring sensitization in campus on gender related issue.
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Gilroy | August 5, 2008 at 10:05 am
hey pepople,
I am happy that you have taken this initiative to sensitize people in campus.
Initially you might face strong oppose but that is the sign that people need sensitization there.
Best of Luck…
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should i reveal | August 5, 2008 at 4:49 pm
well…life is full circle!!!
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Sumedh | August 5, 2008 at 5:14 pm
It is good initiative taken by you guys,
There are many facts that i don’t know about the gender discrimination. at least it will consentize the people in the campus.
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Arundathi | August 6, 2008 at 10:24 am
@ should i reveal
Kindly elaborate.
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sonali | August 6, 2008 at 10:27 am
u asked a question, u got an honest answer. i think it was supposed to be funny. the staring really needs to stop.
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just | August 6, 2008 at 1:50 pm
do we need to say more, how sensitive the campus is.
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suresh....... | August 7, 2008 at 8:24 am
@ to just said this
i don’t know whether this is showing sensitivity or insensitivity i want to ask you one thing did you ever thought on this whole idea of putting posters asking people……… what are you staring at?……..makes sense and…. adding to it generalizing….one response. By doing this you people actually letting the bull to hone the horns……….
be more objective….
make your intentions clear……
believe me a barrage full of phalocentric thought is taking it as challenge…
so be objective…… avoid short run STUNTS
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Ujithra | August 7, 2008 at 11:59 am
I am sorry, I do not understand. Kindly clarify. The poster did not seek a response. As far as being clear about our intentions goes, there are no ready made answers. It is a process and requires your engagement which is appreciated. The about section in the blog spells out the overarching ideas/need to start something like this.
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Arundathi | August 7, 2008 at 1:39 pm
@Suresh
The question on the poster was a rhetoric.
“Rhetoric is generally understood to be the art or technique of persuasion through the use of oral, visual, or written language. A rhetorical question is a question which is asked to have a persuasive effect, rather than to elicit an answer”
(Source: http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:rhetoric&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title)
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Varun (HRM) | August 8, 2008 at 7:39 pm
I completely agree with Sonali….we asked a honest question, and we got a honest answer…now I am not sure if the intention was honest or not….but cant doubt the answer…and lets not over-analyse stuff…sometimes it works just to ignore some responses….but yes, I hate the anonymity, whoever commented should have left a name..!!!
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Arundathi | August 8, 2008 at 9:12 pm
@ Varun
You seem to construct ignorance as bliss.
Lets just ignore sexual harassment as well then. Ah! Bliss.
Also, PLEASE refer to the post above your response. It defines rhetoric. (@ Suresh).
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Varun | August 9, 2008 at 7:15 am
Well…only if it was that simple….join 2 and 2 and make 5..!!!
Sexual harassment is a high priority issue, but dont expect quick-fix solutions, it requires a concerted, long drawn process of making people aware of their actions…and not just some “code of conduct” pamphlets..!!!
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anonymous | August 9, 2008 at 1:03 pm
honestly… while i think it is wrong to generalize on just one response that u have got, that single response, over and above reflecting on the one who made it, has succeeded in making a lot of unaware people people aware of the biases and flaws inherent in them that they never realized there existed….good work people
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jackie | August 9, 2008 at 2:53 pm
well, first of all i must thnk those who hv initiated this poster abt staring….its reality n it shouldn be ignored, hypocrisy mindset shud be changed…its high time tht women shudnt be considered as sex object, i hv come across a certain colleagues in our campus itself , who cant stand a women smoking …i wud say those colleagues r nt liable to be called a part of society !
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anonymous | August 9, 2008 at 6:24 pm
i dont understand,what does that poster really mean????????????
but i feel awkward when somebody write anything offensive on it…
is it for open expression of “those” feelings…
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should i reveal | August 10, 2008 at 6:41 pm
all @ et al in tiss….
u wanted to know HONESTLY…what were men looking at…n you got a simple n singular answer…and then we are happy enough to go on generalizing the answer..just because the answer met our expection..wot we intended to receive by sticking up that poster…and we go on writing volumes and volumes on it … blogs, books and so on and so forth….now one important question for all of you….demystify the link of staring at BOOBS with physical harrasment…how just looking at women makes her a object of sex…EVEN how, if a bunch ful of boys are going to stop staring, is going to reduce the stares the girl is going to receive tomorrow morning outside the main gate…not speaking of any other physical advances….
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should i reveal | August 10, 2008 at 6:42 pm
arundhati….wud lov to elaborate…let me know ur pick on the issue..n be a part of the journey
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Ankur | August 12, 2008 at 6:40 pm
i think the purpose of poster was to generate a debate around this sensitive issue…:)
it was nt to meant 2 target men in genral…wht these ppl r trying 2 do is to sensitize ppl..n also view the world frm a female perspective which has alwayz been viewd frm a phallocentric way… ppl feeling offended or an agreemernt to it, both r respected n accepted here..
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anonymous | August 12, 2008 at 6:53 pm
well in short those who dont understnd wht the poster is abt , is dangerous 4 the devlpment of our society, cos the future is in our hand !
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shall i reveal | August 12, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Ankur i agree with you….i feel dat the male students are not dat bad as it comes out of the above responses…and even the discussion is becoming lop sided…n even the responses seen here are from those ppl who are already sensitized n thus d discussion…i hope ven v were occupied with such discussions…one person n only one person who really need sensitization have stopped STARING….dan all the resources gone in building up dis debate would be regarded as succesful…
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shall i reveal | August 12, 2008 at 8:03 pm
ANONYMOUS…plz plz plz tell us your understanding about the poster….we are eagerly waiting
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anonymous | August 13, 2008 at 10:12 am
whts there to reason, if ur rational enuff, u will knw ,the poster is a depiction of our day to day life n lemme add this as well, its the hypocrisy inside all of us tht we always doubt abt our surrounding !
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nand | August 13, 2008 at 12:19 pm
to be frank you cant stop the boys looking at gals___
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Someone who has been stared at by N | August 13, 2008 at 2:10 pm
^ At nand
To be frank, you can.
PS: Try it.
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anonymous | August 13, 2008 at 6:50 pm
LOOKING AND STARING IS DIFFERENT THING, get it right !
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Varun (HRM) | August 13, 2008 at 7:06 pm
I see this going nowhere unfortunately, so lets stop quibbling on vocabulary and attack the main issue of how to sensitize people about the harm they cause by leeering, oggling and staring..!!!
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Ankur | August 13, 2008 at 10:23 pm
@ shall i reveal
thats wht i want 2 say.. lets take this debate to every1 in campus.. discussing wid d sensitized crowd on net wont affect much…
varun,i agree wid u…think!!!!
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Varun (HRM) | August 14, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Hmm…maybe at the end of the Audio Club meets, Movie Club meets, GBM’s…etc, one of us “sensitized” lot could come forward and have a chat for 10 mins…what say, guys ( n gals ??!! ) ???
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shall i reveal | August 14, 2008 at 8:52 pm
but how we measure the level of senssitization..n say v r not looking at the female body but her face only…..ankur and varun r u wid me?
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shall i reveal | August 14, 2008 at 9:09 pm
nand…we r talking exactly bout it ,,,,as how tochange the mindset of ppl n show ppl like u dat it is possible…day women is a humna first n not an object
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Varun (HRM) | August 15, 2008 at 8:55 am
The level of measurement cannot be decided by us guys, the perpetrators…it has to be decided by the women..why is it that sometimes you can look as much but you dont offend a woman’s modesty, else even a glance can be offensive…its the INTENTION which matters, and everyone knows the intent behind…if you notice carefully, when a lady looks back at the guy who has been oggling, he shall instantly move his glance away…thats the guilty mind in action…!!!!
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shall i reveal | August 15, 2008 at 4:46 pm
so VARUN …ver does it leads to…we say we wanna change mindset and attitude of boys…n dan we say women are to decide which stare is harful n which is not…n ahain we do not know where to start….with the stares..with mind directing the stares or defining the stares from an feminist view……..phew!!! dis is notleading us to anywhere…
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Ankur | August 15, 2008 at 4:59 pm
hey varun i completely agree wid u.. i hope it answers to ‘shall i reveal’…
n ya varun, talking abt d issue aftr meetings is a gud option..
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shall i reveal | August 16, 2008 at 7:47 am
varun and ankur…meeting on the issue with out any concrete idea of how to change attitude of ppls…would be again draining our energies….come out with basic simple strategies that would work wonderful atleast in an highly educated society within TISS…i s’ppose such an community is easier to address ….remember all we are talking of SUSTAINED BEHAVIOR CHANGES..just not a change in perspective for just heck of it and all d attitudinal changes wear off once we r out of MAIN GATE…n think now who know me in this big big world….hope u both understand at wot level i m putting my thoughts here
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Ankur | August 16, 2008 at 2:55 pm
i agree…wht i am saying is to start some interaction sessios…
sm activity whch could initiate a dialouge abt d issue in campus.
n ya i agree dat we need 2 b clear abt wht exactly we gonna talk abt.. so give ur suggestions..n tels work on it.
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Varun (HRM) | August 16, 2008 at 5:06 pm
I agree with all….so lets meet up on Wednesday at the main lounge 6.30’ish, what say ??
AGENDA:
To come out with a plan of sustained events to try to educate people of the seriousness of the issues being discussed.
Hope to cya all….!!!
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tisstalks | August 16, 2008 at 8:54 pm
TISSTalks will be organising a discussion session this week. Informtion will be conveyed once it is confirmed. We are glad that you saw the need to abandon the virtusl world. Kindly be present at the dissusion scheduled by TISSTalks.
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Varun (HRM) | August 17, 2008 at 2:02 am
Forgive me to say this, but we are not talking about abandoning the virtual world but we want personal face to face discussions to complement the discussions online….
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shall i reveal? | August 18, 2008 at 1:22 am
@ VArun…had it not been this virtual world, I believe this issue would not have been discussed in length leave alone addressing it in real world…so i would prefer to continue this kinda discussions over the blogosphere and as and when required can be taken up in real interaction as you have suggested…!!!